and have to play by the rules in terms of -- you know, governor romney was criticized for this buddies right, there's got to be a level playing field. and the chinese need to understand that. so it's i think part of this tension that's going to have to be worked out in our policy. >> do we have a question or two from the audience? if so, it up to the mic. we will take both of you. >> you mentioned -- >> introduce yourself. >> world affairs council. you mentioned regarding specifically syria, not our role might be to help the opposition organized and become more democratic. i imagine you might have the same prescription for other arab spring rebellions. my question is how can we help them to become more democratic? >> do you mind if we take both and then we'll go with the concluding question. yes, and introduce yourself. >> good morning. my name is jack from traverse city michigan. in your very interesting exchange with a bass tournament in foreign about afghanistan, you make a very strong case that we need a political transition in 2014, but what i don't see in any other writings on th